Thank you for the reply…I will try to do a towel exercise with him. I tried an experiment outside in the backyard, see video. I wanted to show you how he hunts. I think that the ball is too stimulating for a reward for him, I should stick to food. There is one part where he just steps on the boxes and he is not hunting, but just wants to get the yes, so he can get the ball. I did a couple of hides in the excavated hole my other dog dug for us I was happy with those. I know I picked up the box, but for him, it is not an issue he knows what the game is. (I think anyway) if you don’t think he does let me know. Here is the video I look forward to you comments.